[SystemSafety] Fwd: Re: New book

Robin Messer robin.messer at altran.com
Mon Apr 15 15:43:50 CEST 2013


My recent attempt to post was bounced. Please can I become a member of the list? 

I was a member of the old list when it was run by York and
I thought I had requested to transfer but I could be
mistaken. (Or is it because my 'from' address has changed
from robin.messer at altran-praxis.co.uk to robin.messer at altran.com?
In any case, please can I be added as a member with the address
robin.messer at altran.com.)

Thanks,

Robin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Messer
> Sent: 15 April 2013 14:31
> To: 'systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de'
> Subject: RE: [SystemSafety] Fwd: Re: New book
> 
> I wouldn't recommend choosing books based on price alone. The cover is
> also very important.
> 
> SPARK: The Proven Approach to High Integrity Software, John Barnes,
> 2012 is self-published and available for £20 via print on demand.
> 
> http://www.cpibookdelivery.com/book/9780957290518/SPARK__The_Proven_App
> roach_to_High_Integrity_Software
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> > [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of
> > SPRIGGS, John J
> > Sent: 15 April 2013 14:23
> > To: 'systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de'
> > Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Fwd: Re: New book
> >
> > My publisher offers softback print-on-demand textbooks at a lower
> price
> > to students (under certain conditions); unfortunately my intended
> main
> > audience is engineers, who are not eligible for the offer and who
> > cannot afford the hardback...
> >
> > Self-publish next time?
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> > [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of
> > Peter Bernard Ladkin
> > Sent: 15 April 2013 13:00
> > To: systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> > Subject: [SystemSafety] Fwd: Re: New book
> >
> > On 4/15/13 12:10 PM, jean-louis Boulanger wrote:
> > >   Safety Management of Software-based Equipment
> > >
> > > Autor : jean-Louis Boulanger
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > But the price: £63.50 / €76.20  :-(  I don't know any students who
> > would afford that.
> >
> > That is an issue I haven't solved. I was quoted an asking price of
> £75
> > from a major publisher for my
> > 2001 book Causal System Analysis, knew none of my students would ever
> > pay, so I printed hard-bound
> > hard copies privately for the university library and for people who
> > wanted them, at a quarter the
> > price, and left it on-line.
> >
> > On other other hand, I don't know how to do that much better. The
> > Fukushima book is currently being
> > negotiated to cost about €40 (hard copy or electronic).
> >
> > John Spriggs has a book out on GSN with Springer:
> > http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-1-4471-2312-5/page/1  Felix
> > Redmill reviewed it in a
> > recent edition of Safety Systems, and remarked on the steep price.
> >
> > John Knight does best. His 2012 book
> > http://www.crcpress.com/product/isbn/9781439862551 costs about
> > £32 = €37.50
> >
> > PBL
> >
> > Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University of
> > Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany
> > Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319  www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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