[SystemSafety] underground trains without drivers

[peter.sheppard at uk.transport.bombardier.com]

If I remember correctly the DLR accident was the first train through 
following a possession and should have been driven in a manual mode (as a 
"sweep" train). No passengers involved.

There have been some issues on the Victoria Line with the sensitive edge 
doors and driver interaction in a degraded mode. ATO has been on the 
Victoria Line since 1969!

Cheers

Peter

Peter Sheppard
Senior Safety Engineer and Validator

Mobile: +44 7920 247931
 
  
Please consider the environment before you print / Merci de penser à 
l'environnement avant d'imprimer / Bitte denken Sie an die Umwelt bevor 
Sie drucken 

Bombardier Transportation UK Ltd 
Registered Office: Litchurch Lane, Derby, DE24 8AD, England 
TEL +44 1332 344666, FAX +44 1332 266271 
Registered in England 
Registration No. 2235994 






"Inge, James Mr" <James.Inge782 at mod.uk>
Sent by: systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
24/01/2013 10:27

To
<systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>
cc

Subject
Re: [SystemSafety] underground trains without drivers







Gergely,
 
In the UK, the Rail Accident Investigation Branch investigates train 
accidents, driverless or otherwise.  Their investigation reports are 
published at http://www.raib.gov.uk/ and I think that there are some 
overview statistics in their annual reports.  A very quick Google of their 
site picked up two reports of derailments on the Docklands Light Railway, 
and a number of incidents on the London Underground where the report at 
least mentions Automatic Train Operation.  You would have to read the 
reports or ask the RAIB directly to discover whether automatic operation 
was a factor in any of the incidents.
 
Regards,
 
            James Inge
 

From: systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de 
[mailto:systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of 
Gergely Buday
Sent: 24 January 2013 08:49
To: systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
Subject: [SystemSafety] underground trains without drivers
 
Hi there,

what is the current trend on to employ or not to employ drivers on 
underground trains that would be capable of running automatically, and/or 
with central control? I guess people usually stick to see a human being in 
control.

And, is there a track record of accidents of driverless trains?

Gergely Buday_______________________________________________
The System Safety Mailing List
systemsafety at TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE







_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 

This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential 
or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or 
entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to 
receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, 
copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please 
notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply 
e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to 
protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in 
use and will browse through incoming emails. 
Thank you. 
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 


Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier(s)), transmis par courriel, peut 
contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à 
l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est, par 
les présentes, avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le 
distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, 
veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note 
qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la 
sécurité de nos systèmes d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels 
entrants.
Merci. 
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de/mailman/private/systemsafety/attachments/20130124/2e7be7de/attachment-0001.htm>