[SystemSafety] Statistical Assessment of SW With Deliberate Unreliability for a SIL requirement

RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) bertrand.ricque at sagem.com
Wed Jan 21 14:08:38 CET 2015


If it is unspecified and cannot be activated, wouldn’t it be considered as dead code under DO ?

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From: njtudor at gmail.com [mailto:njtudor at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Nick Tudor
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Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Statistical Assessment of SW With Deliberate Unreliability for a SIL requirement

Under Do, not on statistical evidence.  The functionality has to be shown that it cannot be activated unintentionally and this is not done through statistical analysis...."the one in a million chance happens 9 times out 10" [Pratchet]

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On 21 January 2015 at 12:59, RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE) <bertrand.ricque at sagem.com<mailto:bertrand.ricque at sagem.com>> wrote:
Do you think it violates ARP and DO ?

Bertrand Ricque
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Subject: [SystemSafety] Statistical Assessment of SW With Deliberate Unreliability for a SIL requirement

I am working with others on a reformulation of IEC 61508 Part 7 Annex D, on the statistical assessment of software presented with black-box functionality.

Rainer Faller brought up an interesting example. He has seen SW which is proposed to be used in a safety-related application, which has a Safety Requirements Specification (SRS) in that application, and which has a "Debug/Maintenance" mode, triggered by a specific input sequence known to the SW developer of course, but not necessarily to the system developer who wishes to use it in the new safety-related application.

Can such SW be presented as "black box" with statistical evidence of its fitness for purpose, and accepted for use based on the statistical assessment?

I've written a White Paper on the case, RVS White Paper 8, available at http://www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de/publications/WhitePapers/LadkinFallerExample20150101.pdf

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