[SystemSafety] Making Standards available .....

Daniel Grivicic grivsta at gmail.com
Sat May 14 10:09:09 CEST 2016


Thank you all for the useful information in this discussion

Another set of course material can be found at NTNU:

http://www.ntnu.edu/ross

Marvin Rausand's book from the course 'Reliability of Safety-Critical
Systems' is not inexpensive however I think it is easy to follow and
provides useful references for further information on each topic covered.
Nancy Leveson's free PDF and/or purchase option is also a good idea for
students.

Perhaps a "pay what you feel" model for some text books?
http://lentilasanything.com/about/

-Daniel





On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Michael J. Pont <M.Pont at safetty.net> wrote:

> My summary of this discussion.
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> We have a list made up of people who are interested in functional safety
> and in “making the world a safer place”.
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> It has been proposed that – to help make the world a safer place – we
> should:
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> 1.
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> give students free access to standards (such as IEC 61508);
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> 2.
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> reduce the price of key textbooks;
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> 3.
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> agree a list of material that students need to know.
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> Personally, I don’t think “1” is going to happen, and I’m not sure that it
> would contribute very much to the “safer world” goal even if it did.
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> [Let’s stick with IEC 61508.  I think many students would be put off by
> the standard (it’s hardly a page turner).  We want to inspire these
> students!]
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> In my view, students can deal with the standards after graduation, and –
> if we have the time available to teach functional safety – we should be
> introducing practical techniques for developing safe systems (and
> discussing various case studies).  If lower-cost textbooks help with this,
> then this can be no bad thing.
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> It seems to me that one of the most influential “standards” that has
> emerged in recent years is MISRA C.  The standard is not free (but neither
> is it expensive).   It has (in my view) made a positive contribution to the
> goal of making the world a safer place.
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> MISRA C is (of course) a coding standard.  What would also be useful would
> be a similar, pragmatic document that discussed design guidelines for
> software in safety-related systems.  We also need a document that describes
> how to record safety requirements and system requirements.
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> This (in my view) is the kind of material that we should be teaching our
> students.
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> If the documents proved to be useful then they could also form the
> foundation for future standards (just as MISRA C is referenced in existing
> standards).
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> Members of this list could perhaps make a useful contribution to the
> development of such documents?
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> There would be costs involved in this (I think we’d need to start by
> getting round a table).
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> Would anyone have any interest in getting involved?
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> Michael.
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> Michael J. Pont
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> SafeTTy Systems Ltd.
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