[SystemSafety] Name and Shame - Key but off-topic

David Haworth david.haworth at elektrobit.com
Wed Nov 16 14:41:06 CET 2016


Hi Bernard,

I had some problems a couple of years ago. The mail provider used by
one of my contacts in the UK was using the DNS blacklist service
invaluement.com, which regularly blocked two of the domains that I
use for email. The blocks usually lasted for a day or two and then
were lifted, but happened frequently enough to be extremely
annoying.

The company seems to be a bunch of cowboys. Or perhaps just a single
cowboy - the website had a kind of amateur hacker look and feel.

They never responded to any of my attempts to contact them. In the
final contact attempt I threatened to sue them. But shortly afterward
my contact moved to a different town and changed his ISP, so I wouldn't
know if it had any effect on invaluement's behaviour.

Cheers,
Dave

On 2016-11-16 14:00:49 +0100, Peter Bernard Ladkin wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> in early 2016 I suddenly discovered I couldn't communicate by email with some key colleagues,
> amongst them Mike Parsons; a former Concorde Chief Aerodynamicist who has worked for us; the former
> head of security at UK ONR. The reason was that they all had email accounts with btinternet, and
> btinternet was apparently blocking all emails from the University of Bielefeld domain. There is a
> procedure to raise a flag and have one's communication attempt processed, but it appears to be fake.
> 
> It has now happened again with tiscali, from my current email service provider, this time with email
> to a colleague who is a former head of CESG. This time without a (pseudo-)rectification procedure.
> Tiscali says it has received too many spam emails from my "email provider".
> 
> Technically, this is nonsense. My university email service is provided directly by people I know and
> can talk to, from machines which they administer, and the email headers are annotated accordingly.
> They do not forward spam. In fact, they do not forward anything. And nobody is hacking in to send spam.
> 
> I am moderately convinced, but do not know for sure, that similar is true of the mail forwarder
> which my current email service provider uses.
> 
> I can tell quickly from an email header, with few exceptions, whether it comes from where it says it
> comes from. These service providers btinternet and tiscali are not parsing the headers properly.
> 
> Has anyone else had similar phenomena occur to them? Private mail, please. Name and shame appears to
> be the only option open to sufferers. I am thinking of starting with a blog post.
> 
> Formerly, communications service providers had a legal obligation to deliver properly-addressed
> communications. Not on the internet. Big companies can do what they want. Welcome to Galbraith's
> world, if you didn't already know you were in it (
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00h3y23/episodes/guide ).
> 
> PBL
> 
> Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Bielefeld, Germany
> MoreInCommon
> Je suis Charlie
> Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319  www.rvs-bi.de
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




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