[SystemSafety] Australian System Safety Conference 2018, May 23 to 25, Melbourne
Gareth Lock
gareth at humaninthesystem.co.uk
Fri Dec 8 07:00:52 CET 2017
Maybe the issue is the apparent disconnect between engineering and human
factors? Sweeping generalisation: engineers like to put things into
boxes/standards and can’t understand why users don’t do what they
are expected to do.
I can thoroughly recommend reading this excellent starter piece on the
need to understand the difference between ‘Work as Imagined’ and
‘Work as Done’ - Steve expands on the headings in further blogs on
the same website.
https://humanisticsystems.com/2016/12/05/the-varieties-of-human-work/
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On 8 Dec 2017, at 0:22, Les Chambers wrote:
> John
>
> I think I've got a good point. America is awash with guns, they have
> one mass shooting per day. Switzerland is awash with guns they have no
> mass shootings worth mentioning. This speaks to culture. Safety is a
> cultural issue. The standards and procedures are a hygiene factor
> only. You only achieve safety through cultural change. Without a
> safety culture the standards and procedures sit on the shelf and
> gather dust. They become useless objects.
>
> On this list there is far too much focus on the details of this
> procedure or that fine point in a standard or some knowing wisdom on
> an accident that has already happened. I see next to nothing on what
> causes people to stand up for safety against powerful people who
> allocate capital and are ignorant of the subject and its horrible
> impact of lax safety procedures on the people who ride in or use our
> artefacts.
>
>
>
> It is a matter of great sadness to me that we continue to learn our
> lessons in blood. And that every new generation has to go through
> this. This does not have to be the case. I personally experienced and
> indoctrination process that turned me into a safety zelot without
> having to kill anyone. What are the universities doing about this in
> their training of young engineers? What are companies doing about this
> when they employ graduates? Where are the papers on attitude
> engineering? What are the attitudes of mind required in a system
> safety engineer?
>
>
>
> Does anyone on this list have an opinion? Preferably one that does not
> involve chocolate or cheese.
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
> From: SPRIGGS, John J [mailto:John.SPRIGGS at nats.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 10:48 PM
> To: 'Les Chambers'
> Subject: RE: [SystemSafety] Australian System Safety Conference 2018,
> May 23 to 25, Melbourne
>
>
>
> Hi Les,
>
> A ‘big data’ analyst would claim a direct correlation between good
> chocolate and the lack of mass shootings ;o)
>
>
>
> John
>
> Oh, and Swiss Cheese too
>
>
>
> From: systemsafety
> [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf
> Of Les Chambers
> Sent: 06 December 2017 19:09
> To: paul cleary
> Cc: systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Australian System Safety Conference 2018,
> May 23 to 25, Melbourne
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> Did I hear you say,"... That's not the function of SSE, to be
> integrated into a design process. ...."
>
> Can you clarify your comment.
>
> I am one of the true believers who will tell you SSE needs to be
> integrated into every systems engineering process. Truly, madly ,
> deeply integrated.
>
> But most important of all it must be integrated into the belief
> systems of every Pilgrim working on a safety critical project.
> attitude engineering is the key.
>
> Take the Americans. They are sweethearts but they've had one mass
> shooting almost every day this year. Take the Swiss. My understanding
> is that every male Swiss of military age has a military assault weapon
> in his cupboard.this allows them to raise A militia of 200,000 men in
> a few hours. Have you ever heard of a mass shooting in Switzerland?
> The difference is attitude, personal discipline , belief systems and
> so on.
>
> This is the integration we need, this is the discipline we admire.
>
>
>
> Get with the program son.
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2017, at 5:55 pm, paul cleary <clearmeist at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the clarifications Martin. I know there's much work to do
> in that space with the Australian sector. I will take a look and come
> back to you
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2017, at 09:29, Martin, BJ <bj.martin at novasystems.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul,
>
> That’s probably a fair cop. The text is cut & paste from our
> colourful flier, which in Australia is largely targetted at
> infrastructure and government agency organisational management and a
> systems integration industry audience. That’s who funds people’s
> effort to write, present and attend.
>
>
> What we’re wanting to be talking about is integrating system safety
> better with system engineering and management decision making
> practices. So maybe I’d disagree with your statement below. We’re
> also trying to get discussion focussed on the competencies necessary
> to be developed to fulfil the roles of SSE needed in our environment
> and with the technologies being introduced. Where and how could the
> professional community in Australia invest to develop them?
>
>
>
> As you may know, Australia has not had an established competency
> framework exercised previously (unlike the UK), except in some
> companies and industry pockets. Meanwhile industry and govt has
> increasingly bandied the terms “safety assurance” about in recent
> years in job advertisements, with the terms mean very different things
> in different applications and the skill levels available in the market
> are quite diverse and un-measured.
>
>
>
> We would certainly welcome someone of your diverse experience to
> attend and contribute to improving this state.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> BJ Martin
> Chairman - aSCSa
>
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>
>
> From: paul cleary [mailto:clearmeist at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 3:47 PM
> To: Martin, BJ <bj.martin at novasystems.com>
> Cc: systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Australian System Safety Conference 2018,
> May 23 to 25, Melbourne
>
>
>
> Sorry I don't quite follow, your call title is too high level and
> opaque. Integrate system safety engineering into what, integrate with
> what? The design process? That's not the function of SSE, to be
> integrated into a design process.
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 6 Dec 2017, at 02:36, Martin, BJ <bj.martin at novasystems.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Conference Theme:
>> Strengthening and Integrating System Safety Engineering for
>> Australia's future
>>
>> The Australian System Safety Conference (ASSC) is organised by the
>> Australian Safety Critical Systems
>> Association (aSCSa), a Special Interest Group of the Australian
>> Computer Society.
>> Newsreels are full of coverage about impending introduction of
>> autonomous vehicles and taxi services, aerial drone delivery services
>> in your street, autonomous rail, cyber and energy security risks,
>> artificial intelligence, intelligent transport networks and
>> infrastructure and recently the announcement of an Australian Space
>> Agency and growth in related space industries.
>> How well skilled is industry and responsible agencies to manage the
>> system safety challenges that come with these technology advances?
>> How should we rise to the challenge? Straw polls on compliance to
>> proposed ACS Safety Professional competency criteria at 2017's ASSC
>> indicate that attendees and members did not feel overly confident of
>> their status.
>> Along-side publishable advances in system safety practices and
>> notable project challenges - the ASSC2018 team would like to hear
>> from Industry, project agencies and academia on needs and ideas for
>> raising skills and strengthening safety engineering through better
>> integrated practices.
>> Safety critical areas of interest include: . Medicine and health
>> (medical devices, e-health systems etc.). Transport. Defence and
>> Aviation.Telecommunications. Energy. Security. Resource and process
>> industries, and. Emergency services.
>> Delegates have the option of submit two types of papers:
>> 1) Refereed Papers by the conference program committee
>> 2) Industry Presentations/Papers (not subject to peer review, and not
>> published in conference proceedings, available by conference CD only)
>> Abstract Submission: Fri 23rdDec17 (or contact us for negotiated
>> involvement)
>> Paper submissions can also be emailed to program at assc2018.org
>> For more information, visit
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://www.ascsa.org.au/assc-submit
>> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://www.ascsa.org.au/assc-submit&data=02|01||ad65fa1f2ea94555ba2b08d53c30a2f9|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|636481101941316735&sdata=5eAeIDCBXHzWd5fqcwmrlRYEvjzBl0EAkKWIe0OEjDs=&reserved=0>
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>>
>> Program Chair - WGCDR (Dr) Derek Reinhardt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> BJ Martin
>> Chairman aSCSa
>>
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