[SystemSafety] What Tesla says about its autopilot

Tue Dec 4 14:30:13 CET 2018

I know that!

It was ironic British humour.

As a Frenchman (I presume), you are forgiven if you didn't get it :-)

Olwen

On 04/12/2018 13:18, RICQUE Bertrand (SAFRAN ELECTRONICS & DEFENSE) wrote:
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> [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] *De la 
> part de* Olwen Morgan
> *Envoyé :* mardi 4 décembre 2018 14:11
> *À :* systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> *Objet :* Re: [SystemSafety] What Tesla says about its autopilot
>
> Given that Elon Musk's SpaceX launchers seem to be behaving reasonably 
> well, should we perhaps stop saying that things, "aren't rocket 
> science" and start saying that they're not automotive engineering?
>
> Olwen
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> On 04/12/2018 12:49, Andy Ashworth wrote:
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>     Hardware by itself will not assure safety (crash protection and
>     restraint, yes, but functional safety no). Equally, software in
>     isolation is no guarantee of safety.
>
>     We need to recognize that a vehicle is a complex system and ensure
>     that we are adopting appropriate system-safety engineering
>     techniques to identify and mitigate the system risk. Software
>     development processes and physical hardware are elements of the
>     overall system mitigation... by themselves they are nothing more
>     than throw-away lines in marketing documents.
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>     Cheers
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>     Andy Ashworth
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>     behalf of Haworth, David <david.haworth at elektrobit.com>
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>     *Sent:* Tuesday, December 4, 2018 07:13
>     *To:* Peter Bernard Ladkin
>     *Cc:* The System Safety List
>     *Subject:* Re: [SystemSafety] What Tesla says about its autopilot
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>     Hi everyone,
>
>     On 2018-12-04 07:17:31 +0100, Peter Bernard Ladkin wrote:
>     > Apparently Tesla is claiming great things for its technology:
>     >
>     > [begin quote]
>     > Palo Alto-based Tesla's website states that "all Tesla vehicles
>     produced in our factory, including
>     > Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving
>     capability at a safety level substantially
>     > greater than that of a human driver."
>     > [end quote]
>
>     Does it say anything about the software?
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>     -- 
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