[SystemSafety] Mercedes and Autonomous Driving

Phil Koopman phil.koopman at hushmail.com
Fri Dec 10 14:26:31 CET 2021


UN rule 157/ALKS features are often "traffic jam pilot."

The presumption, at least in discussions I've seen to date, is that the 
driver will only engage it in traffic congestion because they'd 
otherwise be in too much of a hurry to let it keep working in free 
flowing traffic.  I suppose the general idea is that at slower speeds in 
a traffic jam you're less likely to see crazy unstructured things happen 
too suddenly for the car to react. (Not necessarily endorsing this; just 
summarizing.)

Honda also released an ALKS feature (Japan is said to use essentially 
the same standard), but has produced at most 100 pilot production vehicles.

I interpret this as baby steps to deploying highly automated vehicles.

Kind regards,
Phil


On 12/10/2021 6:59 AM, Dewi Daniels wrote:
> Peter,
>
> It reminds me of the queue assistant feature on my BMW.  It will steer 
> the car automatically, but only if the car is on a motorway, its speed 
> is less than 35 mph and both the driver's hands are on the steering 
> wheel.  You might think it could be useful in road works, but no, it 
> complains the lanes are too narrow. I did manage to use the 
> queue assistant feature in rush hour traffic on the M42 the other day, 
> though the amount of steering input required when driving at less than 
> 35 mph on a motorway is minimal in any case.
>
> The main difference between this MB system and the BMW system seems to 
> be that the driver is allowed to take their hands off the wheel.
>
> I suspect these systems are being added so that the manufacturers can 
> gain experience that can be applied to future, more functional systems.
>
> Yours,
>
> Dewi Daniels | Director | Software Safety Limited
>
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> On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 11:38, John Spriggs 
> <the.johnspriggs at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>     "Autobahn-similar" probably refers to the relative lack of
>     junctions or pedestrians, and the presence of a central barrier -
>     the car just has to drive slower than other road users, like a
>     certain supermarket's lorries in the UK.
>
>     John
>
>     On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 at 11:27, Peter Bernard Ladkin
>     <ladkin at causalis.com> wrote:
>
>         I read in my local newspaper this morning that Mercedes-Benz
>         have got the worldwide first "type
>         certificate" for self-driving systems. It is called a "Drive
>         Pilot"; it follows UN rule 157, and it
>         allows hands-free driving at a maximum of 69kph along
>         "autobahn-similar roads". The article says
>         this covers quite a few Autobahnen, but I can't see how this
>         can be -- the only 60kph limits on
>         Autobahnen are in narrow lanes past road works.
>
>         "Type certificate" means that the German road vehicle
>         authority has issued a permit for its use on
>         German roads. It will be in the S-class Merc and the electric
>         Pendant EQS.
>
>         PBL
>
>         Prof. i.R. Dr. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Bielefeld, Germany
>         Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319 www.rvs-bi.de <http://www.rvs-bi.de>
>
>
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