[SystemSafety] Watch out for exploding ticket machines on German Railways!!

Robin Cook robin at cook0306.wanadoo.co.uk
Sat Jun 1 23:44:21 CEST 2013


I think this is one where the clause in the 1996 regs (UK) to avoid putting
too many signs on comes into play. You could of course add one about unknown
effects from criminal activity.

So - who reviews the criminals risk assessments for change of substance
filling the machine from air to explosive gas? Can the court ask to see
them? Does a good risk assessment help against a charge of manslaughter?
"Milord, my client would like to submit his risk assessment to show that
applied his best endeavours to not harming any members of the public or
railway staff while or as a result of his crime."

We have the answer in the UK. You have to queue - so someone else will use
it first.

Best regards
Robin Cook


-----Original Message-----
From: systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
[mailto:systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of Mike
Ellims
Sent: 30 May 2013 21:05
To: systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Watch out for exploding ticket machines on
German Railways!!

What I want to know is does the risk appear on the hazard analysis for
ticket machines; that is assuming of course that there is (or was) a hazard
analysis...

> just when we travelers thought DB had the user interfaces finally 
> sorted
out...

Don't get me started on interfaces, BT have just updated the software for
their set top boxes and in the last two days I've spent nearly two hours on
the phone explaining why the new menu's don't scale from 3 recording of CSI
which will be deleted, to 50+ recording of Octonauts (1) which will be kept
until both Thing #1 and Thing #2 get sick of them or Hell (2) goes sub-zero.

Cheers.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Octonauts
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway

-----Original Message-----
From: systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
[mailto:systemsafety-bounces at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of Peter
Bernard Ladkin
Sent: 30 May 2013 14:56
To: systemsafety at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
Subject: [SystemSafety] Watch out for exploding ticket machines on German
Railways!!

Well, just when we travellers thought DB had the user interfaces finally
sorted out...... Unless, of course, they only explode when naughty people
try to buy tickets.......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/30/german-rail-exploding-ticket-mac
hines

PBL

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Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University of Bielefeld,
33594 Bielefeld, Germany
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