[SystemSafety] Hackers take over *control* of a car wirelessly

Tom Ferrell tom at faaconsulting.com
Tue Jul 21 19:27:33 CEST 2015


Stating the obvious, but isn't there an aspect of this that goes
something like, "Just because we can doesn't mean we should."  To me,
there is a fundamental engineering ethics question that comes into play
when people start talking about the 'Internet of Everything.'  When
someone postulates hooking two systems together that always before have
been physically separated, engineers have a moral responsibility IMHO to
inject themselves firmly and fully into the benefits vs. risks
discussion with a strong bias of when in doubt, don't. 

 

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How does one distinguish a hacker attack from bad software, or operator
error, i.e. unintended acceleration?


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robert schaefer
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	On Jul 21, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Martyn Thomas
<martyn at thomas-associates.co.uk> wrote:

	 

	In which countries would Chrysler have any liability if a hacker
caused an accident in this way?
	
	Martyn
	
	On 21/07/2015 16:54, Peter Bernard Ladkin wrote:
	> .... and drive it into a ditch. Done during a demo, performed
the day after the fix was available

	> from Fiat Chrysler. But it's real. As in, really real. Thank
heavens the good guys found it first.

	> 

	>
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/21/jeep-owners-urged-upda
te-car-software-hackers-remote-control

	> 

	> I must admit I thought such an act was still a couple years in
the future.

	> 

	> PBL

	> 

	> Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Faculty of Technology, University
of Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany

	> Je suis Charlie

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