[SystemSafety] a public beta phase ???

Peter Bernard Ladkin ladkin at rvs.uni-bielefeld.de
Sun Jul 17 18:38:14 CEST 2016



On 2016-07-17 15:45 , Martyn Thomas wrote:
> On 17/07/2016 13:51, Peter Bernard Ladkin wrote:
>> And we presume, or legislate, that the technology will be incrementally
>> adapted to the "lessons learned" from these analyses. That will happen, because the alternative is
>> that accidents are not investigated and lessons are not learned, and that is unacceptable.
> 
> Isn't there at least one step missing here? 

Yes. As I said,

On 2016-07-17 14:51 , Peter Bernard Ladkin wrote:
> Is that alone a way to proceed? Not by itself, for it specifies nothing about the specific duties
> of care of the manufacturer in introducing the AP to the market in the first place.

One possible formulation of a duty of care is

On 2016-07-17 15:45 , Martyn Thomas wrote:
> ..... Isn't it necessary to have adequate confidence (for some
> agreed meaning of 'adequate') that the new technology, with the "lessons learned" will have fewer
> accidents than the technology it replaces?

That would be an MGS/GAMAB criterion. I could see others, for example a demonstration that certain
classes of serious accidents would have significantly reduced occurrence, even though nothing would
be claimed about reducing the number of accidents overall.

For example, a reliable automatic speed limiter would reduce accidents involving overspeed, even
though nothing might be said about reducing the number of accidents overall.

> If that /is/ necessary, how could it be achieved?

If I can step back from an unspecified level of automation and just talk about a reliable automatic
speed limiter, I would imagine a few of us could see how to approach that.

And once we've done the speed limiter, we could try doing other specific functions, one by one.

PBL

Prof. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Bielefeld, Germany
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