[SystemSafety] Move fast and break things

Robert P. Schaefer rps at mit.edu
Wed Oct 17 17:49:52 CEST 2018


When will we see an equivalent consultation for "driverless" cars?

Martyn

The state of california does has  autonomous vehicle regulations:
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/02/california-dmv-has-new-regulations-for-self-driving-car-companies/
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/autonomous/auto

And also has been collecting enough data over the years so as to allow academic analysis:

IEEE/CAA JOURNAL OF AUTOMATICA SINICA, VOL. 5, NO. 1, JANUARY 2018
Analysis of Autopilot Disengagements Occurring During Autonomous Vehicle Testing,
Chen Lv, Member, IEEE, Dongpu Cao, Member, IEEE, Yifan Zhao, Daniel J. Auger, Senior Member, IEEE, Mark Sullman, Huaji Wang, Laura Millen Dutka, Lee Skrypchuk, and Alexandros Mouzakitis

I’ve read the above report and find it interesting for what it does and doesn’t say.

cheers,
  bob s.

On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Martyn Thomas <martyn at thomas-associates.co.uk<mailto:martyn at thomas-associates.co.uk>> wrote:

At least the regulator is trying to state and to consult on the
certification requirements and allowable failure probabilities. Contrast
that with the absence of any such requirements at the moment, in the
case of cars that have an autonomous capability.

When will we see an equivalent consultation for "driverless" cars?

Martyn


On 17/10/2018 16:32, Olwen Morgan wrote:

Wasn't it Henry Ford who once said that people can't even drive
properly in two dimensions?

ROTFLMFAO! - not at you, Derek, but at the arrant stupidity of
regulators.


On 17/10/2018 16:17, Derek M Jones wrote:
All,

Readers might wan to fit down while reading:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/16/easa_vtol_air_taxi_regulation/

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