[SystemSafety] Comparison of Confidential vs Non-Confidential Reporting Systems

Steve Tockey Steve.Tockey at construx.com
Thu Oct 18 07:39:43 CEST 2018


There is some related information at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1931_Transcontinental_%26_Western_Air_Fokker_
F-10_crash

Quote:

Although the accident is best known for causing the death of Rockne, it
also led to major changes in American aviation that radically transformed
airline safety worldwide. Other comparable crashes had occurred before,
but this one, which killed a popular national hero, brought a national
outcry for getting "answers to the mystery" as the public demanded
solutions that might prevent such disasters in the future.

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‹ steve



-----Original Message-----
From: systemsafety <systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>
on behalf of "Robert P. Schaefer" <rps at mit.edu>
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 6:09 AM
To: Tim Schürmann <tschuerm at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>
Cc: "systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de"
<systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Comparison of Confidential vs Non-Confidential
Reporting Systems

I¹m thinking historical reasons, from a Lindbergh biography by A. Scott
Berg I read years ago.
Aviation in the US was funded by the government for air mail. To save
money Inexperienced army pilots
were recruited and started dying from accidents in high numbers.
Lindbergh, promoting flight safety called
out president FDR¹s actions as the cause for their deaths. Safety
regulations then came into force,
but by making FDR angry, Lindbergh (an ex-Army pilot and also an America
First-er) was prevented
from re-enlisting as an officer during WWII.

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Tim Schürmann
><tschuerm at techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> On 17.10.2018 14:49, Mike Rothon wrote:
>> [...]
>> 
>> In general, I am trying to understand why it is considered to be
>> beneficial for aviation, but not necessarily elsewhere.
>> [...]
> One reason might be:
> There is only one "safe state" for aviation: "Not Flying/Moving", while
> other industries have more possible "exits" in case of a safety event.
> 
> Just my 2 Cents..
> Maybe someone with more experience could enlighten me? ;)
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Tim
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