[SystemSafety] New paper on MISRA C

[Derek M Jones]

Paul,

> As I understand it MIT and others have successfully debunked the notion 
> that system safety is correlated with component reliability.

Can you point me at the references for this assertion?

Given enough redundancy you can build a system out of unreliable parts,
but some people prefer less redundancy+more reliable components.

> So a simple question, and sorry for being blunt...
> 
> Why is MISRA C still considered relevant to system safety in 2018?
> 
> br
> Paul
> 
> On 2018-09-04 15:48, David Ward wrote:
>> Derek
>>
>> A further point of clarity here is that you are talking about MISRA C,
>> which MISRA was not "paid" to develop. This has always been a
>> voluntary effort.
>>
>> It is arguable whether a grant-funded project (where industrial
>> partners do not get full costs reimbursed) is being "paid" but I do
>> not want to open a debate on that ...
>>
>> David
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf
>> Of Derek M Jones
>> Sent: 04 September 2018 15:32
>> To: systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
>> Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] New paper on MISRA C
>>
>> David,
>>
>>> Once the grant-funded project was complete, some of the industrial 
>>> partners elected to continue working together on a self-funded basis 
>>> and one of the first outcomes of this was the publication of MISRA C. 
>>> This arose from two automotive companies acknowledging it was better 
>>> to have a single industry approach to a C subset than company 
>>> specific guidelines.
>>
>> MISRA were paid to do some work, when it took off those involved were
>> flexible enough to find a way for the 'project' to continue.
>>
>> The success story of MISRA C is a result of the efforts of those
>> inside and outside to keep working over many years, on what senior
>> management probably regarded as an inefficient use of resources.
>>
>>
>> -- 
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