[SystemSafety] State of Things
Peter Bernard Ladkin
ladkin at causalis.com
Wed Dec 7 23:18:23 CET 2022
Folks,
The Safety-Critical Mailing list started at Uni York on 19th May, 1995
https://abnormaldistribution.org/index.php/2010/04/07/engineering-discussions-of-discussions-the-york-list-after-15-years/
In my memory, there was extensive discussion of approaches to system safety, involving in particular
the IEC standard 61508 on functional safety of equipment involving digital components. Rich, and
rewarding.
In summer of 2012, Uni York in moved to IT services provided by Google, and suddenly many
participants of the York mailing list were unable further to participate, due to their company
protocols. My group at the Uni Bielefeld reacted: Jan Sanders set up a mailing list using Mailman in
my faculty IT-admin and we invited anyone from the York list to join. Many did.
Discussion about system safety continued.
Recently, there have been many important themes in digital-sytem safety that have come to the fore.
The revision of IEC 61508, a huge topic of discussion in the earlier years of the York list. The use
of machine-learning SW in autonomous road vehicles and other safety-critical applications.
Cybersecurity considerations about safety-critical systems and their resolution (if there is one).
None of these subjects has attracted much recent debate on the System Safety List. There may be many
reasons for this, but one, I think, is that people just don't seriously debate on mailing lists any
more.
The list is maintained through the good auspices of Michael Götting, head of the Bielefeld
University Faculty of Technology IT services, Sascha Frey, and Christian Lange. All of these good
and devoted people have much to work on (TechFak digital traffic is half of all traffic at UniBI,
which supports over 20K students and myriad research groups).
I don't wish to burden my colleagues any longer with maintaining a list that is barely used. I
propose to close the list on 2022-12-31.
I regret this development. I am firmly convinced that active open discussion is the best way to
progress system safety, and the main practical way of enabling active open discussion is through
email mailing lists. It seems this view is now "so 1990's". So be it. Maybe we should all move to
TikTok.
I thank all contributors and listeners. It's been good, for a long while. 27+ years is not a bad run.
Best wishes to all,
PBL
Prof. i.R. Dr. Peter Bernard Ladkin, Bielefeld, Germany
Tel+msg +49 (0)521 880 7319 www.rvs-bi.de
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