[SystemSafety] Language issues, control systems

[RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE)]

Hard to achieve between french and english !

Well known example: Israel will evacuate occupied territories.

More funny, the IEC 61508 standard itself. Just look how "performance test" and "performance" is translated into French all along the standard. If you feel somewhat depressed, read it, and you will feel much better after !

Bertrand Ricque
Program Manager
Optronics and Defence Division
Sights Program
Mob : +33 6 87 47 84 64
Tel : +33 1 58 11 96 82
Bertrand.ricque at sagem.com


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From: systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of andy at the-ashworths.org
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 5:19 PM
To: systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] Language issues, control systems

In a single language case, you need the assurance that the natural language conveys the desired meaning.

In the dual-language case, you need the assurance that each natural language conveys the desired meaning. Should there be an additional consideration to ensure consistency of the two languages, i.e. if both were translated to a third language they would result in the same meaning.

Andy


Martyn Thomas <martyn at thomas-associates.co.uk> wrote ..
> Why is this different from the single language case? In either
> situation, do you not need assurance that the natural language conveys
> the desired meaning to the relevant humans?
>
> Martyn
>
> On 27/04/2015 15:19, M Mencke wrote:
> > Or to put things simply: Imagine you are developing a product in
> > England for a client in "anywhere" (Russia, France, China, anywhere)
> > and this client wants the system to be usable by human operators
> > both in English and in the native language of the country. How do
> > you deal with the Safety issues of the translation of the HMI? How
> > is this usually done? Is there a standard/accepted way?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Myriam.
>
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