[SystemSafety] תשובה: Re: AOP52

h3k at 012.net.il h3k at 012.net.il
Sat Oct 24 07:10:25 CEST 2015

You are correct: JSSSH and AOP-52  are part of Mil-Std-882E, as shown in section 2.2.1 Specifications, standards, and handbooks. 
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מאת: Matthew Squair <mattsquair at gmail.com>
תאריך: Friday, October 23, 2015 11:23
נושא: Re: [SystemSafety] AOP52
אל: "Inge, James Mr" <James.Inge782 at mod.uk>
העתק: "systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de" <systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>

> I had a quick squiz, the front matter looks remarkably like the US DoDs JSSG handbook on software safety. 

Matthew Squair

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On 23 Oct 2015, at 7:12 PM, Inge, James Mr <James.Inge782 at mod.uk> wrote:

> Bertrand,
> Publically available NATO documents, including a couple of Allied Ordnance Publications (AOPs) are available for free from the NATO Standardization Office (current list at http://nso.nato.int/nso/nsdd/listpromulg.html).
> AOP-52 is unclassified, but not approved for public release.  If you have a legitimate need for it, such as working on a government contract which cites it, and you need a copy of the current official version (rather than a draft), then you should approach the contract sponsor or the military standardization organisation in your country.
> Many public NATO and US military standards can be downloaded from US Department of Defense’s ASSIST website, mentioned by Haim, which can now be found at http://quicksearch.dla.mil/ .  It gives current revision and sponsorship details for most US and NATO military standards, including the AOPs and other documents with controlled distribution.  The site also has contact details for a (US) helpdesk that may be able to help with access to non-public documents.
> In the UK, NATO standards can be obtained from UK Defence Standardization (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-defence-standardization ).  Once registered, their public website allows free download of unclassified UK Defence Standards.  Unfortunately it doesn’t list the NATO documents, so you would have to contact their helpdesk for access.
> I guess in France you may need to approach the DGA Centre de Normalisation de Défense.
> Regards,
>                 James Inge

> From: systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of Haim Kuper
> Sent: 22 October 2011 17:20
> To: 'RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE)'; systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> Subject: Re: [SystemSafety] AOP52
> Mil-Std-882E reference this standard as follows:
> 2.2 Government documents.
> 2.2.1 Specifications, standards, and handbooks. The following specifications, standards, and handbooks form a part of this document to the extent specified herein. Unless otherwise specified, the issues of these documents are those cited in the solicitation or contract.
> AOP 52 - North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Allied Ordnance Publication (AOP) 52, Guidance on Software Safety Design and Assessment of Munitions Related Computing Systems
> (Copies of this document are available online at https://assist.dla.mil/quicksearch/ or from the Standardization Document Order Desk, 700 Robbins Avenue, Building 4D, Philadelphia, PA 19111-5094.).
> Attached is a (free) copy.
> Regards,
> Haim Kuper

> From: systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de [mailto:systemsafety-bounces at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de] On Behalf Of RICQUE Bertrand (SAGEM DEFENSE SECURITE)
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:20 AM
> To: systemsafety at lists.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
> Subject: [SystemSafety] AOP52
> Dear all,
> I am looking for a download link for AOP52. Does anyone have a clue where I can find it ? Is it free ?

> Bertrand Ricque
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